MGBGTV8 at Barons auction at Epsom

Keith Belcher has spotted this MGBGTV8 at the Barons Summer Auction at Epsom Racecourse today.

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Posted: 200714


Barons Summer Auction
Epsom Downs Racecourse - Tuesday 14th July 2020

Listed with guide price: £17,000 to £20,000
Keith Belcher has scanned the listings and there is no sign there the car was sold today.

Listing says "Mileage is 97,106. The vendor purchased this car in April 1987, it is an original Factory car, which many are not. Date of build 4 to 7 April 1975, first owner British Leyland themselves (Management Car Plan, Truck and Bus Division, Leyland) from 1975 to 1978. There have been three registration numbers over the years to allow for cherished transfers. Unfortunately, the vendor's efforts to obtain further history from other owners proved fruitless, and very limited paperwork came with the car, so the then recorded mileage of 49,424 can't be warranted. He has wanted to keep the car as original as possible, but it was obvious soon after purchase that serious work was needed, and in 1989 Marden Coachworks carried out major bodywork repairs, including replacement of many major panels, They then repainted the car in the original colour, a long time ago now, but full photos are available.

The vendor is not a mechanic so all servicing etc., has been carried out by garages, normally MG specialists, and since he came across them in 2006, by Robin Lackford Engineering in Cowfold (MG 5 star and 5 spanner.) Over recent years the performance of the car has deteriorated, so in 2018 it was agreed that an engine rebuild by a specialist would be worthwhile and that at the same time other work could sensibly be carried out. This was put in hand and was extensive and expensive, with the total cost £15,000+. In the event the engine rebuild required a good used engine block to be sourced and then cleaned and machined, as the old block was found to be unserviceable. (The former engine number is of course still shown on the Heritage Certificate, but the new number is now recorded on the V5C by the DVLA.) Other specialists were employed to overhaul the gearbox and overdrive unit, and the wiring looms were replaced.

With regard to the car overall then it is 30 years since the major bodywork and the interior of the car is looking a little bit tired so it is likely that a new owner will want to do some work, but the end result of the recent mechanical work is that the car is now running beautifully again, it is a joy to drive, and is proving very reliable. After over 30 years of ownership, it is now the third car and is not being driven as much as it deserves or needs so with real regret it has been decided that it should be sold. It has the benefit of a new MOT, and being an Historic Vehicle does not require Road Tax. Full service records and MoT certificates since purchase by the vendor are provided".
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"An original Factory car"
Our copy of the MG Factory production records show the car was originally produced as a rubber bumper model in Tahiti Blue 2429 and despatched to BLMC, Truck & Bus Division at Leyland for a "Mr Burnett". So at some stage it has had a respray in Damask Red. Original registration number not know as Mr Burnett did not register the car with the V8 Register. The listing information says he had the car "from 1975 to 1978".

Registration number 234 WHT
The car was registered with the V8 Register in the 1970s as Damask 2429 with this VRN by an owner in Plymouth in Devon but with no information on any previous owner(s) or mileage. So it seems the body colour change had already been made. There are no notes on the copy of the Factory records that a body colour change was made at the Factory prior to despatch to Mr Burnett.

Registration number changed to HRV 110N
The current registration with the V8 Register was made in August 2016 by a Club member in Surrey. The listing says "
in 1989 Marden Coachworks carried out major bodywork repairs, including replacement of many major panels, They then repainted the car in the original colour". So it seems the respray was in the colour as purchased, Damask, and not the original Factory colour, Tahiti Blue.

Current condition - the listing says "
the major bodywork and the interior of the car is looking a little bit tired so it is likely that a new owner will want to do some work" and the Baron star ratings show ratings out of 5 of bodywork 3, paintwork 3 and interior 2. The engine (has had a major rebuild) and electricals are both 5.

We have not been able to inspect the car (other than the photos with the listing) but it seems the car would be rated as Condition 2 Plus but would need expenditure on restoring the bodywork and interior to get the car to Condition 1. Our Pricewatch price guide released in May 2020 shows a rubber bumper Condition 2 at £13,503 and a Condition 1 at £18,598. So Condition 2 Plus would be around £16,000 but we have not inspected this car so it can be no more than an indication.

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Keith Belcher has scanned the listings on the Barons' website and there is no sign there the car was sold today so possibly it did not make its reserve. That may well have been case as £17,000 was the lower figure of the guide price range shown in the auction listing.


Interior

Photos: Barons' listing for this car