Note |
MGBGTV8
|
MG
RV8
|
Survey
sample size
|
18
|
22
|
Mileage |
.
|
.
|
Total
(av) |
101,356
|
21,225
|
Total
(high) |
346,000
|
62,000
|
Total
(low) |
17,000
|
7,300
|
Annual
(av) |
3,378
|
2,272
|
Old
tyres |
.
|
.
|
Michelin |
7
|
17
|
Uniroyal |
1
|
1
|
Nokian |
1
|
0
|
Firestone |
1
|
1
|
Avon |
1
|
0
|
Gadjah
Tungal |
1
|
0
|
Dunlop |
1
|
0
|
Bridgestone |
2
|
1
|
Pirelli |
0
|
1
|
Goodyear |
2
|
0
|
Yokohama |
0
|
1
|
Vredestein |
0
|
0
|
Brand
unknown |
1
|
0
|
Reason
for change |
.
|
..
|
Better
handling |
12
|
14
|
Age
effect |
13
|
14
|
Damaged
tyre |
2
|
0
|
None
mentioned |
3
|
6
|
Probable
mileage to last tyre change (av) |
24,718
|
20,240
|
Age
of tyre at change |
8.53
years
|
8.91
years
|
New
tyres |
.
|
.
|
Michelin |
3
|
7
|
Firestone |
4
|
1
|
Goodyear |
1
|
3
|
Falken |
0
|
1
|
Pirelli |
1
|
5
|
Dunlop |
1
|
1
|
Continental |
2
|
1
|
Vredestein |
2
|
0
|
Uniroyal |
1
|
0
|
Yokohama |
0
|
2
|
Toyo |
1
|
0
|
Kumho |
0
|
1
|
Bridgestone |
2
|
0
|
Price
incl VAT (av) |
£55.73
|
£74.54
|
Tyre
supplier |
.
|
.
|
Micheldever |
2
|
5
|
Online
supplier |
1
|
0
|
Other |
15
|
17
|
Recommend
them? |
18
|
13
|
Ride/handling |
.
|
.
|
Improved |
9
|
5
|
Excellent
improvement |
11
|
14
|
Handling
worse! |
0
|
1
|
No
observation made |
0
|
2
|
Footnote: survey
data in 2009 indicate tyres have increased in price substantially
compared with 2008.
Report produced:
13th July 2004, revised 21st July 2004 and again on 11th August 2004
and 13th September 2004 and 24th December 2004, 21st March 2005, 14th
June 2005, 16th June 2005, 22nd March 2007,
20 May 2007, 4th June 2007, 11th
June 2007, 5th July 2007, 23rd August 2007, 30th
October 2007, 21st December 2007, 28th April 2008, 15th September
2008, 12th April 2009 and 23rd August 2010. |
Distorting
effect in the data for the MGBGTV8 tyre survey
The mileage data from the MGBGTV8 tyre survey is distorted by
the exceptionally high mileage of one enthusiast's car, Gordon
Hesketh-Jones had done 346,000 miles when he sent in his survey
form! Removing that data, the adjusted figures are:
MGBGTV8 |
Adjusted
data
(miles)
|
Original
data
( miles) |
Total
mileage (av) |
86,967 |
101,356 |
Annual
mileage (av) |
2,898 |
3,378 |
Probable
mileage at last tyre change (av) |
24,718 |
24,718 |
Replacement
tyres are a frequent topic of discussion amongst V8 enthusiasts
so we have conducted a survey of members' views and experiences
Early in 2003 we did a brief survey of RV8 replacement tyres with
our members and some interesting results emerged - not least the
"age effect" on tyres. This has a marked effect on ride
and handling and was seen to be the principal factor in the decision
to replace RV8 tyres. It seems that with classic cars with relatively
light use and low annual mileages, tyres will often need replacement
more on the basis of age than wear. Why? - well over time the flexible
characteristics of road rubber change as the tyres age. With older
tyres, the tyres can feel more like "wood" than rubber.
Many members have commented that following replacing their tyres
with a new set, they find the ride and handling of their V8 is substantially
improved.
Update survey report (22.3.07)
The sample size for both the MGBGTV8 and RV8 tyre surveys is relatively
small so only limited indications can be drawn. From the average
annual mileage data, it's clear RV8s are used less than MGBGTV8s
but for both models the tyres are changed at around 7 to 9 years.
A greater awareness of the "age effect" on tyres and the
consequent reduction in handling performance is likely to be the
factor behind the decision by members to change RV8 tyres at an
average of only 19,258 miles and MGBGTV8s at only 24,529 miles (if
you remove the distorting effect on the data - see above).
Choice of replacement tyres?
The tyre brand chosen by MGBGTV8 enthusiasts is Michelin (17.5%),
Firestone (23.5%) and Continental (12%). RV8 enthusiasts have chosen
a variety of replacement brands with 32% staying with Michelin and
23% opting for Pirelli. This is a change from our earlier survey
where most RV8 members had stuck with a Michelin replacement. Micheldever
in Hampshire (just off the A303) is proving a popular tyre supplier
with many respondents commenting on their good service and prices
although we believe the ownership of that company may have changed
recently.
RV8 handling worse!
You may have spotted this in the data alongside. Well one RV8 member
sent in a report where replacement tyres had been fitted just before
he purchased the car. The replacements were Firestone Firehawks
and his comment was "No I would not recommend them!
I have never ever experienced a tyre with so little wet weather
grip. I have driven on wet tracks with slicks and these are almost
as bad in a corner. In dry weather they are acceptable".
Note:
the "probable mileage at last tyre change (av)"
quoted in the tables alongside is the mileage on the tyres that
were replaced. This is given to indicate the typical mileage at
which the tyres were changed - clearly that data suggests replacement
is almost certainly on an age-related basis rather than because
of wear.
Hopefully this will act as a reassuring guide for members who, through
natural feelings of thrift, find it difficult to throw away tyres
which appear to have plenty of tread left. The reality is the condition
of the rubber is likely to be affecting the ride and handling and
replacing them with new rubber will transform both.
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