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Newsletter published in Safety Fast!
This
month we have news of recent registrations, an interesting report
from David Franklin on his snatching fastest time of the day at
a hillclimb in Switzerland last Summer in his "Shopping V8",
a brief report of the 50th Anniversary Meeting in New Zealand, and
the release of a clutch of workshop notes.
Member
news
New registrations of factory V8s have included details from
Jim Lothian (Glacier White 0552) from Middlesex, Richard Horrocks
(Glacier White 0947) from County, Tom Fallon (Citron 0954) from
Staffordshire, Andrew Yates (Aconite 1172) from Merseyside, Peter
Holden (Glacier White 1183) from Warwickshire, Franck Morand (Mirage
Blue 1586) from Thailand, Stephen Messenger (Damask 2536) from Hampshire,
Barry Hamilton (Green Mallard NNNN) from Northern Ireland and James
Lothian (Glacier White NNNN) from Middlesex. V8 conversions include
an MGBV8 Roadster from David Lockett (Blue 4212) from the West Midlands
with a car reimported from California and converted to LHD and V8
specification in 1975. David also owns another V8 (Red 1577) which
is presently dismantled with its running gear fitted to the MGBV8
Roadster! More reimported RV8 registrations have come from James
Rudgley (Woodcote Green 0696) from Bedfordshire, John Adams (Woodcote
Green 0757) from Gloucestershire with a car obtained from Modern
Motoring in Paignton, Devon and Nigel Barker (Woodcote Green 2079)
from Hertfordshire. Where "NNNN" is shown above the Car
Number or VIN has yet to be received by the V8 Registrar, Victor
Smith.
John Barnes (Woodcote Green 0636), the V8 Register contact in Wellington
New Zealand, mentioned in an emailed note that driving the RV8 down
to the NZ 50th Anniversary Rally in Canterbury in early January
gave him an opportunity to test his new chip on the engine management
system. The RV8 returned around 33mpg at an average of 65mph on
the way down and achieved a standing quarter mile time of 16.3 seconds.
Sadly the well organised event was dogged by some very unseasonable
weather with rain, hail, wind, rain again and some sun! Six members
from the UK attended including Piers and Linda Hubbard who had the
loan of a blue MGA whilst they were there - a little like home from
home it seemed.

John
Barnes (Woodcote Green 0636) leaves the starting line at the NZ
50th Anniversary Meeting in January 2002 in Canterbury, New Zealand.
(Photo: Piers Hubbard)

Murray
Baber (Woodcote Green 0886) essays the motorkana in his RV8 at the
50th Anniversary Rally in Christchurch New Zealand in January 2002.
(Photo: Piers Hubbard)
Franck
Morand (Mirage Blue 1586 originally Glacier White) in Chiang Mai,
Thailand has one of the few BGTV8s in France as he keeps
it at his parents' home near Clermont-Ferrand. He contacted the
V8 Register for information on the choice of oils for the engine,
gearbox and back axle as he was arranging a service at long range!
A copy of pages 76 and 77 from the BGTV8 Drivers Handbook (AKD8423)
was sent out as an email attachment and then by chance Victor Smith
was in Kuala Lumpur shortly after, so they made contact by telephone.
Chiang Mai is relatively close, just to the north of Malaysia! On
learning of the recent release of Volume 6 of the V8 Workshop Notes
series, Franck ordered an email copy and later replied - "
The copies of Volume 6 and the Rolling V8 Calendar came through
very well. I am really impressed with the detailed information in
the notes and the compiling work it represents." He then ordered
a copy of the updated issue of Volume 5 for the articles in that
volume on unleaded fuel for the V8! From the chat over the telephone
it was clear Franck is keen to arrange his business visits back
to Europe this year to coincide with some of the V8 Gatherings.
So we may see him this year at le Mans 24 hour event in mid June,
the Club's Silverstone International Weekend at the later date in
July and the Goodwood Revival Race Meeting in early September. Franck's
registration information shows his BGTV8 has been converted to LHD
with a respray in Mirage Blue. He says "it is not near the
concours condition of some of the V8s I see in Safety Fast! but
it very usable with a number of "sensible improvements".
I am a believer in using classic cars and every summer on my return
trips to France I drive the V8 for at least 3,000km. My father warms
it up for a short drive every month as well!". Franck added
he "would have imported another V8 for use in Thailand a long
time ago had it not been for the fact it is legally impossible to
import secondhand cars to Thailand - even MGs!"
David
Franklin and the V8 snatch FTD and drive away with a Swiss hill
climb award
Back in the seventies, one of the most extra-ordinary sights
at the Club's annual weekend meeting at Silverstone was David Franklin
coming through Woodcote Corner in his BGTV8 on the limit. But what
made it even more extraordinary was the V8 was an ordinary road
going machine and yet it was dicing with the leading fully modified
BCV8 cars! Well the wet conditions, which seemed to be a frequent
discomfort at our Silverstone meetings in the late seventies, provided
the opportunity for a skilled driver on good roadgoing rubber to
get on even terms. In David's case that skill had been honed during
many seasons competing in National and European hill climb and sprint
championships in various Formula 2 machines. Since then David has
competed in many historic racing events and in recent years is frequently
seen working wonders with a mouthwatering Ferrari 712 CanAm. His
performances at the Goodwood Revival meeting last year in a Ferrari
250LM was another example - anyone standing out at Fordwater on
the back of the Goodwood Circuit would have been stunned by the
sight of David drifting that glorious machine through that corner
and just brushing the apex at around 130mph - a truly extraordinary
sight and experience. It was in the Paddock at Goodwood that David
mentioned he had popped in fastest time of the day using the "Shopping
V8" at a hill climb championship whilst touring in Switzerland
last June. Clearly this tickled his sense of fun - trouncing much
more powerful machinery is always a pleasure! Here is his note with
a report of the event.

David Franklin (Blaze 2177) drives through St Ursanne following
snatching FTD at the hillclimb in 2001 with terry Osborne repeating
the applause taking in 1974! (Photo: Debbie Franklin)
"In
the seventies I was lucky enough to spend many years hill climbing
in Europe, and Switzerland in particular with Formula 3 and
then Formula 2 single seater racing cars, My team manager in those
days was the well known MGB racer and BCV8 competitor, Terry Osborne.
In 2001, the Swiss MG enthusiast Marcel Schaub invited us to compete
in a round of the British Sports Car Cup in Switzerland held at
the St Ursanne les Rangiers hill climb. I had competed there
eight times in the seventies so knew the hill pretty well! Two years
ago, we had competed in a round of their championship in Austria
at a hill climb called Silvetta using the BGTV8 - normally my wife's
shopping car - which we drove over, competed, won the class and
then drove home again. A total of 3,000 miles! So when the chance
of competing with them again last June arose it was far too tempting
to turn down, and it was closer to home!
In 2001 the event was called the Jo Siffert Memorial Hill Climb,
with scrutineering and practice on Saturday, and two timed runs
on the Sunday. As in the seventies, team manager Terry Osborne,
- "Ozzy" to his friends! - could not resist the chance
of returning and meeting old friends, visiting restaurants and generally
having a good time! We drove down in two cars, Ozzy in a 2001 Mondeo
due to his advancing years, and Deb and myself in the V8.
We arrived in glorious sunshine on the Thursday afternoon
after a good run down from the overnight boat from Portsmouth to
Le Havre. A couple of beers in the village of St Ursanne sitting
under a parasol was really great but little did we know that this
would be the last sunshine we would see until we left on Monday
morning! Friday was raining and we did a couple of reccy
runs up the hill which leaves the picturesque village of St Ursanne
on the river Doubs in the Jura mountains, and winds up the valley
for three miles to join the main road to Delemont and Basel at the
end of the hillclimb at les Rangiers. It is all on public roads,
it is very fast for the main part but with three first gear hairpins
at the top. In the seventies we would average 98 mph from a standing
start over this course in a two litre March BMW F2 car!!
Saturday was again raining, still this made scrutineering
easy as it was in the open! I could not be bothered to removed the
rubber bumpers or spare wheel and tools from the boot for practice,
so ran in heavyweight specification! A really good dinner followed
on Saturday night with all the Swiss crowd which made-up for the
rotten weather. Out of 140 entries in the programme, only eighty
or so were listed after practice as the weather forecast had been
so terrible for the whole weekend, many had not turned up at all!
Sunday was still raining, now nonstop since Friday morning.
On the first runs in the morning, the road was in good condition
despite the odd "river" running across the track. However
just before the hairpins there was an oil slick running on the racing
line all the way to the finish! At the parc ferme after the finish,
I walked down to speak to my good friend Eddy Wyss (who was driving
a beautiful Abarth 1300 and running about ten cars in front of me)
and I asked him what he thought about the oil? He replied what oil!
Only to find when his oil pressure warning light came on during
his return down the hill that it was his car which had deposited
the oil! For the rest of the weekend he was known as "Oily
Eddy". Our time in the V8 was very good, thanks to the fancy
Yokohama tyres we were running which were ideal for the conditions.
For the second runs on Sunday afternoon there were less competitors.
It seemed they had either fallen-off or had just got fed up with
the weather! For our runs, as we arrived at the oil on the hairpins,
we came upon oil granules and a surface like glass! Had it been
left alone, the oil would have been washed away together with the
cement dust or anything that might normally soak-up the oil, but
not in those rainy conditions.
As we walked to the village hall that Sunday evening for the prize
giving, it actually stopped raining! The result was a little embarrassing
- fastest time of the day outright! We had clocked 2min 40.41
for FTD some 0.48 seconds ahead of Jacques Joliat from France with
an F2 GRD and then ten and twelve seconds ahead of two Porsches!
Our average speed was just over 66 mph!".
Terry
Osborne (Glacier White 1480) "riding mechanic" on the
back of David Franklin's F3 Ensign in St Ursanne back in 1974 -
repeated in the BGTV8 in 2001! (Photo Debbie Franklin)
Footnote: Team Manager Ozzy insisted we ran the BGTV8 without the
rubber bumpers, spare wheel and tools for the competition runs.
We compromised and took off the front bumper, so we were semi-lightweight!
The "Shopping V8", 8000 DF, has had a wonderful competition
career spanning 25 years. After winning the BCV8 Championship in
1981, it was third overall on the Tour Espagna in 1999, took the
class record at the Colerne sprint the same year and still gets
driven to and from meetings. Oh! - and the sunroof was open all
the way back to le Havre from Switzerland on the Monday!
Now a couple of photos of John Targett (BRG 1022) from Sussex
who lives in the US and races an historic MGB Roadster in a series
known as the "Past Masters".

John
Targett in his ultra low MGB Roadster at Watkins Glen in the US
Past Masters series". (Photo: Dana Moreland)

John
Targett collecting his award, the "Old Farts Cup" at Watkins
Glen in 2001. (Photo: Dana Moreland)
V8 Workshop Note 245
Small steps and giant strides in the handling department
The suspension package on the BGTV8 was showing its
age even when the V8 was launched in 1973 and by today's standards
the handling demands skill and attention. Ken Drake (Citron 1057)
from Berkshire provides this note on how he has made a series of improvements
to the handling on his V8. (Dec 99)
When I acquired my BGTV8 in June 1987, it was suffering from a
lack of use as it had been virtually laid up for seven years. So although
this had preserved the bodywork wonderfully, a certain amount of recommissioning
had to be done. However once this had been accomplished, much as I
appreciated the straight line performance, I found the handling hairy
to say the least with an alarming amount of body roll on cornering.
Fortunately, Ron Hopkinson introduced his handling kits in
1988 and I was one of his first customers. The kit I obtained consisted
of a rear anti-roll bar which has to be secured to the floor of the
spare wheel well together with a thicker front anti-roll bar. They
were fitted by the V8 specialist, Geoff Allen at Abingdon (Editor:
now retired). With the back of the car anchored to the axle, the improvement
in handling was quite dramatic with body roll reduced considerably.
In my opinion that kit remains good value today particularly as it
is slightly cheaper (at £99.50) than it was then.
So far as driving is concerned, I have the misfortune to live in the
grandly titled Royal County of Berkshire where I'll swear the roads
are the most neglected in the country. With the new handling kit installed,
I still experienced a rather jarring ride over the poorly surfaced
and pot-holed roads which abound in the county.
So in 1991, I arranged with Geoff Allen to supply and fit the Moss
Dynamic Suspension System. This handling kit replaces the front
lever arm dampers with top wishbones and incorporates telescopic dampers
inside the replacement coil springs. Once fitted, this system made
a really worthwhile improvement to ride quality and eliminated the
bump-thump at low speeds. Again I felt the £400 for the kit
was money well spent.
However as the local roads continued to deteriorate and the Council
decided to invest its road budget in road humps or sleeping policemen,
which play havoc with the car's suspension system, rather than in
adequate road maintenance. Things got so bad that when speed bumps
were installed in my own road, there was a risk my wig might become
dislodged as the V8 lurched over them - I hasten to add this joke
is for the benefit of all those rumourmongers! So when British
Motor Heritage Engineering introduced their Performance Suspension
Assembly in 1997, based on the front cross-member developed for
the MG RV8, my interest was aroused. The assembly was a complete replacement
for the original cross-member incorporating double wishbones with
adjustable Koni telescopic dampers within the coil springs, maintenance
free ball joints instead of kingpins and ventilated disc brakes with
4 piston callipers. All very appealing but also quite costly. So I
canvassed opinions of a couple of members of the V8 Register who were
fortunate to own both an original BGTV8 and an RV8, on the relative
merits of the RV8 set up. Strange to relate both members were independently
non-committal. On reading the magazine reports of the
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BMHE Performance
Suspension Assembly they appeared to have been written by people
who one might feel had vested interests. No demonstration cars with
the conversion installed were available.
Eventually in September
1999, I decided to take the plunge and ordered the RV8-style front
suspension assembly from Moss. I should mention that the BGTV8
requires the assembly specified for the standard rubber bumpered MGB
1800 fitted with disc wheels (part number 213015) to accommodate the
raised ride height. By this time Geoff Allen was in retirement in
Cheshire, so my next problem was to find a specialist able to fit
the assembly as I am more proficient at wielding a chamois leather
than a spanner! Scanning the MG Car Club Trade Directory I found Crown
Classic Cars of Twickenham, just down the road from Moss, to whom
the bulky kit could be delivered direct.
Crown Classic Cars is run by brothers Jason and Tony Payne who
have exclusive hands-on experience with MGs and had already fitted
a number of these RV8 assemblies. On visiting them I was reassured
to find their workshop and yard full of Jaguars and TRs as well as
MGs and found their workmanship to be superb and reasonably priced
- a rare combination these days, usual disclaimer applies!! Fitting
the kit took a day and when I collected the V8, Jason warned me to
go carefully until the new brakes had bedded-in. So it was with some
trepidation that I set off for home down the busy Chertsey Road in
rain that soon became torrential, but the first nervous jabs on the
brakes provided instant reassurance that the improvement was immediately
obvious. It has only got better since.
So with the memory of the previous set-up still fresh in my mind,
I wrote these impressions of the new RV8-style system. The
improvement in ride quality is quite amazing with the damping, even
on the softest setting, most impressive with none of the previous
floating action after hitting a bump. To be fair some of that previous
floating action could have been attributed to the previous dampers
being exhausted after eight years of pounding on the appalling roads
in Berkshire. The steering feels somewhat lighter at low speed and
wonderfully responsive and positive at higher speeds thanks to 1990s
technology rather than the previous set up which first saw service
some 50 years ago. Before the conversion to the RV8 set up there had
been some vibration transmitted through the steering wheel on all
but the smoothest of roads, which I had been told was due to the tyres
degrading with age, but with the new set up this has gone completely.
Tight bends can now be taken in complete confidence as the steering
is so compliant and responsive with none of the previous tendency
to put up a bit of a fight and run wide if the surface was a bit rough
or bumpy. Visually the ride height of the car is unaltered but the
front track is marginally but perceptibly wider giving the car a slightly
macho stance.
Was it
worth it? Well the RV8 assembly costs £1,821 and the fitting
time and costs will depend on whether or not the exhaust manifolds
have to be removed to undo and refit the four chassis-crossmember
mounting bolts. Fortunately mine did not have to be removed. So for
around £2,100 my MGBGTV8 has been brilliantly transformed into
a car that is more enjoyable, mote relaxing and safer to dive. Admittedly
it is fairly costly, but the RV8 assembly represents excellent value
for money in my opinion as it achieves improvements in so many areas
without affecting the inherent character of a classic car. In fact
it probably brings the MGBGTV8 even closer to the late John Thornley's
vision of creating "the poor man's Aston Martin". In any
case I can always console myself with the thought, in Quentin Wilson's
words, that I have saved myself "shed loads of money" by
not buying an RV8 in its entirety!
V8 Workshop Note 240
Trouble with the original "top hat" battery terminals
Julian Fecitt (Black V8 1350) from Lancashire joined the V8
Register in September 2001 and found his BGTV8 had a problem so contacted
the V8 Register for help. Amongst the responses was this note from
Victor Smith (Harvest Gold V8 1089). (Dec 01).
The message from Julian Fecit outlined the difficulty - "when
the car is hot and the accelerator is pressed, the engine cuts out.
It will restart but cuts out again. Eventually it will restart but
continues to misfire. Leads and plugs look fine - does this indicate
a carburettor problem or is it a well documented "characteristic
of the model?" Well in terms of characteristics of the model
Victor Smith offered the following suggestion as a possible cause
of the misfiring.
"I have found I have had problems with my BGTV8 misfiring when
picking up from low revs and on a couple of occasions the car has
refused to fire up again after refuelling at a filling station. I
eventually traced the problem to the battery terminals which on the
original installation at the Factory were a "top hat" pattern
with a screw through the centre of the cap down into the terminal.
Initially just moving the cap on the terminal and re-tightening was
sufficient to overcome the problem but having found the cause of the
misfire problem, I got into the routine of cleaning the inside of
the caps and around the terminals with a smear of Vaseline each Spring
when the car came back on the road after a Winter lay-up. This was
coupled with the usual annual service and grease up and cleaning or
replacing the points and a check on the gap with my dwell meter with
the machine warmed up."
Well this year at the Hook Norton Brewery, where I was collecting
polypins of real ale for the V8 marquee at MG Car Club's International
Weekend meeting at Silverstone, my V8 just would not fire up. As you
will know the twin 6 volt batteries on the chrome bumpered V8 are
located in a black hole under a metal panel beneath the rear seat
- not the easiest place to get to or work in! On disconnecting and
inspecting the caps it dawned on me that the chamfered profile of
the inside of the cap no longer matched the chamfer of the battery
terminal - in effect only a very small part of the two surfaces were
in contact and most of that was through the screw from the top! I
realised that spirited cleaning of the inside of the caps with emery
paper over past years had put more abrasion on the outer edge than
the innermost part of the inside of the cap - hence the changed profile.
With most of my light luggage and tackle for Silverstone removed from
inside the car and my head stuck down in the gloom of the battery
compartment, I cleaned out the accumulated crud from the innermost
part of the cap. On replacing the caps and connecting up the terminals,
the V8 fired up beautifully and pulled away in low revs in second
and third without any hint of misfire.
I have since decided I have had enough of those wretched top hat caps.
I obtained a set of open top clamp fittings, cut off the top hats
and fitted the clamps to my battery leads. I feel a great deal happier
with them and the more so when I mention a further concern. I have
found some replacement 6 volt batteries seem to be just a fraction
taller than the original equipment. When you have battery leads with
top hat connectors with screws from the top, the clearance between
the underside of the removable black metal access panel and the screws
on the top of the tapered caps is extremely tight! In fact dangerously
so! This is not a satisfactory situation at all because a short between
the panel and the positive terminal would very soon produce a red
hot panel - the inferno that might follow in your garage quietly overnight
does not bear thinking of.! So check your battery terminals and the
clearance with the access panel as soon as you can!
Well the response from Julian Fecitt two weeks after my note was sent
was "Thank you for your email. Since changing the batteries,
cleaning up the battery leads and giving the car a good run over the
hills, it seems to be behaving." He later mentioned "it
was running like a dream - but I know this is tempting fate!"
RV8 Workshop Note 109
Problems with the zip on the RV8 rear screen
Victor Rodregues (Oxford Blue 1621) from Switzerland reported
a difficulty with the zip around his rear screen. This note explains
how he resolved it together with some further comments from John Barnes
(Woodcote Green 0636) in Wellington New Zealand. (Aug 01)
I had a difficulty with the zip on the rear window of my RV8. It became
unserviceable and it was no longer possible to close the rear window.
I called the V8 Registrar to see if there were any ideas on repairs
or fitting a new zip, or whether any member had faced this problem
before and how was it solved? My initial contacts with local hood
repair specialists in Switzerland were disappointing - their answers
were either that it would be necessary to fix the rear window so it
could not be opened and consequently the hood could not be dropped,
or I would have to install a new hood!!
The V8 Registrar replied relaying information provided by Clive Wheatley
indicating that the hood could be repaired in the UK. Clive Wheatley
would be able to arrange that, but the hood would have to be removed
from the car and sent over to England as a parcel with a freight company
(like Fedex or UPS). Clive warned me that, unlike the hoods on the
earlier MGBV8 Roadsters, it was not easy to remove the RV8 hood and
considerable care would be needed. Alternatively I could deliver the
car to the hood repair specialist in England - quite a journey from
North East Switzerland!
Well I did some local research in Switzerland and found several firms
specialising in soft tops for motor cars. The fourth specialist company
I contacted made a fantastic and professional job maintaining the
rear window intact and they did not need to remove the hood from the
car. They managed with very good hands and their special tools to
repair the zip by exchanging the very vulnerable piece that brings
the two separate parts of the zip together. The total cost for the
repair work was the equivalent of £60.00 which I was very pleased
with.
Now here are my tips for RV8 enthusiasts facing a similar problem
with the zip on their rear window:
Research - make enquiries and seek the opinions of several
local car hood specialists or qualified furniture restorers.
Procedure - try to make sure the small zip cursor piece can be professionally
replaced before you decide it is necessary to remove the hood from
the car.
Hood replacement - it is definitely not necessary to think
about a replacement hood even if you live a long way from England!
Caution - if you are not familiar with zip repair technicalities,
never try and do the repair yourself as it could become a very expensive
experience!
Finally I was advised to always keep the hood up whenever the car
is parked long term with the window closed. At least once a year you
should lightly lubricate the zip all round with a suitable product.
Also Clive Wheatley advised that RV8 enthusiasts must take care with
operating and maintaining the zips around the rear screen to avoid
possible damage.
Later we received some further comments from John Barnes (Woodcote
Green 0636) from Wellington in New Zealand: "Before the zip is
zipped down, it is a good idea to release the front clips holding
the hood to the screen which releases the tension on the hood fabric
including the rear window. It should be zipped right the way down
so that when the window is folded over and stored at the rear of the
parcel tray, there is no strain on the zip. When zipping up or down,
the zip should be treated gently."
V8 Workshop Note 239
Ride height and bumpers
Peter Holden (Glacier White V8 1183) retired from circuit racing
a Midget a few seasons ago and thought about getting a BGTV8 which
he could use for the occasional historic navigational event. He contacted
the V8 Register seeking some guidance on ride heights and bumpers.
This note is based on the reply provided by Roger Parker. (Sept 01).
Pete Holden's e-mail to Roger said "I have a couple of questions
regarding the BGTV8 as I am looking at buying a car towards the lower
end of the price range with the emphasis on a tidy and usable car
which I can prepare for the occasional historic navigational event,
so I definitely do not want to "waste" an exceptional vehicle!
Of course chrome bumpers would be nice but I am already finding that
chrome bumper cars in my price range (£5,000 to £6,000)
suffer from excessive "tin worm". However I thought that
as rubber bumpered BGTV8s certainly appear (from my brief surfing
of the internet) to command lower prices. Are the following ideas
feasible, even though the second is probably a heresy!!
Ride height - do rubber bumpered V8s have a higher ride height
than the chrome models and can they be lowered? I have seen Brown
& Gammons advertise a lowering and handling kit for rubber bumpered
vehicles which I presume would do the job or are V8s in some way different?
Now for the heresy - if I remove the rubber bumpers, can I replace
them with a one piece front and rear valence panels in glass fibre
similar in style to those fitted to the MGCGTS? There are front views
of several cars on page 30 of September's Safety Fast! but no rear
shots. Can you advise a way forward?"
Well the reply from Roger Parker was both punctual and straightforward
in his usual way. The answer to your first question is the BGTV8 was
about an inch higher than the same model year for four cylinder chrome
bumper cars and so when the rubber bumpers arrived the four cylinder
cars saw a rise of about one and half inches whilst the V8 saw a minuscule
additional half inch or so. The reality is that this much smaller
difference almost means that both models can almost be treated as
the same.
Certainly the actual configuration between four and eight cylinder
cars is similar except that the spring rates at the rear are considerably
higher to cope with the effect of the V8 torque. The adoption of spacer
blocks is therefore not advised because spacing the axle from the
springs will increase the torque leverage effect and may cause adverse
consequences. If it is felt lowering is necessary, using re-cambered
springs is much better.
The removal of the rubber bumpers and their replacement with anything
that has a connection with the chrome bumper set up (Sebring panels
are chrome bumper cars without chrome bumpers) means you will face
the same problem. Looking at the front and rear installations on rubber
bumpered models:
Front bumpers - the rubber bumpers are mounted on very large
and heavily modified brackets fitted to the front ends of the original
chassis rails. These encroach significantly on what would be the area
below and above the bumper line. This also extends rearwards towards
the radiator. These ends and the rearwards extensions will have to
be removed to provide access for either chrome bumpers or Sebring
panels. In addition the rubber bumper brackets that sit above the
oil cooler platform completely block the fitting of a chrome grille.
Even if just the first couple of inches of this is removed to allow
access to mount a chrome grille the remainder will be as visible as
a large wart through the slats! Perhaps only the late plastic eggbox
style of plastic grille centre would partially restrict this view.
Front wings were next. On rubber bumpered cars they have great
big holes where the front wings on chrome bumpered cars have smaller
holes in which the side light and indicator unit is fitted. The hole
on rubber bumper wings is far larger than the lamp unit fitted to
the chrome bumper wing. So conversions from rubber to chrome set up
require either a change to a chrome bumper wing or welding in a shaped
steel section from a chrome bumper wing to fit the lamp unit.
Rear bumpers - the same sort of large rubber bumper mounts
are fitted to the ends of the chassis legs in just the same way as
the front. These need to be cut away to provide access for the chrome
bumper and a Sebring panel. In addition, you will find there is a
void below each rear light which is occupied by an upswept section
of rubber bumper. On chrome bumper cars there is a round section of
rear wing. It is that section of the chrome bumper rear wing that
would have to be welded in.
A number of companies do rubber to chrome bumper conversion kits which
include the parts needed top cover the problem areas mentioned above.
The work is such that by the time you have got as far as completing
this conversion, fitting genuine chrome bumpers is a relatively small
additional job, so the use of Sebring panels would only save only
a small amount of work together with the cost of the chrome bumpers
and brackets.
The solution as I see it is to persevere with the search for the type
of car you really want because the cost of converting a rubber bumper
car will near enough put the overall cost in much the same level as
going for the chrome bumper car to start with."
Pete Holden subsequently contacted the V8 Register to report he had
acquired a chrome bumpered BGTV8 (Glacier White 1183), previously
registered by Paul Carrier in North Yorkshire. Pete noted "the
car has had a colour change from its original Citron. This was carried
out by a previous owner when having a substantial overhaul to the
bodywork at Beer of Houghton back in the 1980s. The car is having
"remedial" work carried out at present - mainly mechanical
with a little welding and fitting a front valence in place of a glass
fibre spoiler. I should have the car back on the road during December
as my daily transport." |