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How to keep cool under pressure - V8 cooling
system
Here Colin Leisk (Damask 1729) from Warwickshire provides
a comprehensive and seasonal article on maintaining the V8 pressurised
cooling system so your V8 does not overheat. (May
79)
Cooling
system leaks appear to be a persistent problem with the V8 engine
after a few years service, thanks largely to the massive system pressure
of 15psi - about one atmosphere! Since I replaced the radiator cap
on my car some 7,000 miles ago, as it was not maintaining pressure,
I have suffered two burst hoses, a leaking heater valve, a cracked
expansion tank and finally (I hope!!) a radiator leak. Many of these
problems are not confined to the V8 and I hope this article may also
be of interest to owners of other MGs.
Why does the
V8 have such a high pressure? Perhaps the obvious solution is to swap
the radiator cap for the 10psi cap fitted to the later MGBs but this
is one I would not recommend. We all know that increasing the pressure
raises the boiling point of a liquid - in fact water will boil at
around 110oC under 15psi pressure. Normally the temperature on the
gauge will not rise anywhere near this point, and will only reach
"normal" in certain conditions such as town driving when
the cooling fans will limit the temperature. This is when the danger
arises from either fitting a lower pressure 10psi cap or a faulty
15psi cap. Although the temperature at the thermostat may be registering
normal, the local temperature of the water around the hot spots such
as exhaust valve seats and ports may be considerably higher, with
a risk of boiling if the pressure is not sufficiently high, and consequent
damage to the engine. The first symptom the driver will discover is
the loss of water through a cracked cylinder head!
If localised
boiling occurs, heat transfer from the hot cylinder head walls is
greatly reduced hence the casting may overheat, warp or crack. On
older MG engines there is the possibility of an exhaust valve may
start to burn out due to overheating. Needless to say, these risks
will be higher with a "tuned" engine, or if the mixture
is set to weak or the ignition too far retarded. The engine in the
Triumph Stag with its long and narrow water passages and lower system
pressure is an example. Long before the temperature gauge registers
anything amiss, the damage is done. The incidence of warped heads
on the Stag is quite remarkable, largely due to driving in traffic
in a high gear which the V8 engine is quite capable of doing. So beware!
Let's look
at some of the components of the cooling system and the problems which
may arise:
Coolant
Tthe V8 Drivers Handbook (AKD8423) specifically recommends
the use of Blucol antifreeze at all times. As well as protecting the
engine from frost damage, a glycol based antifreeze performs two other
important functions:
Avoiding electrolytic
corrosion. It reduces the electrical conductivity of the water,
so reducing corrosion. This is the opposite effect to salt! Without
Blucol, the water will start to pick up iron compounds from the steel
components of the system, which will then accelerate corrosion of
the aluminium parts - the block, head and pump housing - by electrolytic
action. Moreover the deposits will tend to block small waterways,
reducing the efficiency of heat transfer and the flow of coolant.
My engine needed a thorough flushing with Holts Radflush to remove
all the sludge built up due to a lack of corrosion inhibitor in the
antifreeze.
Raised boiling point. It raises the boiling point of the coolant
water, so reducing the risk of local boiling near hot spots. Note
the methanol based antifreezes sold under some well know brands are
not recommended. It pays to set aside the makers' claims and read
the small print on the tins. It also seems reasonable to conjecture
that the useful life of a methanol based antifreeze will be reduced
in the V8, since the vapour of methanol exceeds 15psi at 80oC - about
the normal operating temperature of the V8 engine - and will evaporate.
However glycol based antifreeze may be safely left in a cooling system
for at least a year.
How can one
test the strength of an antifreeze solution? I found that a hydrometer
for measuring the specific gravity of a battery electrolyte will give
a satisfactory indication - flush any residual battery acid out first!
As an example a 25% solution of Blucol has an SG of about 1.05 which
is just discernible on the hydrometer scale. It is then simply a matter
of adding neat antifreeze until this reading is obtained. For topping
up, the best plan is to make up a bottle of coolant with the correct
proportion of Blucol glycol based antifreeze and keep it handy in
the garage.
Filler
cap
It pays to have the cap pressure tested every year or replaced.
A faulty cap may be spotted when a hot engine is tuned off. As the
temperature rises slightly, and hence the pressure in the coolant
system, strange gurgling noises may be heard in the vicinity of the
cap as the steam and hot air escapes. The cap also has a vacuum relief
valve in it to prevent damage as the engine cools and the water contracts.
This may be tested by sealing your lips round the rubber seal on the
cap and sucking! Air should flow in quite readily. (Editor: I think
I would prefer to get my lips round a pint of Hook Norton and buy
a new cap!)
Thermostat
It restricts the coolant flow until the coolant reaches the correct
operating temperature when the thermostat opens thereby allowing the
coolant to pass for cooling in the radiator. This allows rapid engine
warm up and prevents the engine from running too cold. It should have
a small hole in the frame, normally blocked by a plastic bead. If
the thermostat jams closed, then the |
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plastic bead should
melt allowing the water to flow through the hole.
The thermostat is normally opened by the force generated by the
wax expanding in a small canister which pushes the valve open against
a spring pressure via a piston rod. To test this, remove the thermostat
from the car and place in a pan of water. Bring the water to boiling
point when the thermostat should open 3/8 inch and close fully on
cooling. When replacing the thermostat, ensure that the arrow points
towards the radiator top hose, and renew the gasket. Note the thermostat
acts as a restriction to the flow even when fully open, so the all
important coolant pressure is higher on the engine side. Never run
the engine without a thermostat except in an emergency.
Hoses
Check the hoses regularly for signs of perishing or "puffiness"
indicating the rubber is delaminating. If one or two hoses appear
aged, it is a sound idea to replace all eight at once to save problems
later. The two heater hoses on the V8 are reached by unbolting the
manifold adapter complete with carbs and air box.
I easily
obtained most of the hoses, the exception being the bypass hose
from the manifold to the pump inlet. This problem was solved with
a length of Quinton Hazell 5/8 inch - 4/3 inch flexible hose which
is easily bent to suit and is far easier to fit than the standard
"stiff" hose. Our Spares Secretary (Peter Beadle for over
20 years and at the time of this note) has since informed me that
the hose from the Rover SD1 (part number ERC2278 or ERC2279)
is a perfect match. The small hoses from the radiator top to thermostat
housing can be cut from a length of ¼ inch bore hose, obtainable
from a rubber stockist. He also mentions that the L-shaped hose
connecting the heater to the valve can be cut from a Midget heater
hose.
If you decide
to refit old hoses, ensure that the clips are fitted back in exactly
the same position on the hose to prevent leaks. A new hose can be
eased into place with the help of a smear of washing up fluid on
the inside. Check the clips for tightness regularly and keep hoses
free of oil to avoid perishing.
Master
valve (BHA5297 or BHA5229)
The valve is made by Smiths Industries but is difficult to obtain.
However the parts are identical to BHA5298 as fitted to the MGB1800
- the difference being in the orientation of the cable mechanism
in relation to the outlet tube on the body.
The valve
BHA5298 can be dismantled easily by slightly easing back
the claws round the edge, drilling out the pop rivet which aligns
the two halves of the valve, and gently rotating the halves to dislocate
the claws. Next, position the two halves together so that the assembly
will be correctly aligned when the halves are twisted into place.
If necessary, ease the claws open again with a screwdriver blade
before replacing. Push the two halves firmly together and at the
same time twist the valve so that the flanges on the body locate
with the claws. Replace the pop rivet, and tighten the claws with
a Mole grip, or by tapping evenly all round with a hammer. Result?
- a water tight valve for less than the cost of the "special"
V8 unit. Unfortunately the rubber diaphragms are not available for
reconditioning the old valve. Reconnect the operating cable with
the valve locked in the "off" position and the control
switch "off".
Soldered
repairs
Leaks in the top and bottom radiator tanks or in the expansion
tank can be easily soldered up with the aid of a blowtorch. Use
good quality solid soft solder in solid or coil form, obtainable
from a plumbers merchant, and clean the area to be repaired and
apply flux liberally. Carefully apply sufficient heat to the metal
to allow the solder to run into the joint, then build up the solder
gradually without letting it run. Repairs to the radiator cores
are a trickier proposition involving the removal of one or more
vanes to gain access to the leak. This may not be a lasting solution
since it is a fair bet that other cores will be sufficiently corroded
to spring a leak in a short time. The experts, such as Serk Services,
will first remove the top and bottom tanks, then clean out any deposits
from inside the cores and finally pressure test the unit after carrying
out repairs and repainting.
A completely
new core with vanes is often the only answer. Serk's current cost
for recoring the radiator for the V8 is £51 (less a 20% discount
for members) and your radiator will usually be returned within a
day. All work carries a 12 month guarantee - in all a service which
is good by any standards today.
Cooling
fans
The twin fans are controlled by a thermostatic switch and relay.
Replacement switches are hard to come by though MG agents, Beer
of Houghton, had some when I last checked. Comprehensive information
on checking and repairing the fan motors is given in the V8 Supplement
(AKD8468) which will not be repeated here. No mention is
made there, however, of checking the bearings. Obviously worn bearings
will increase wear on the brushes and commutator as well as affecting
smooth running.
End thrust
is counteracted by an iolite washer with a spring washer to control
end float. Check the action of the spring by pushing the fan blades
backwards - the shaft should move about 1/16 inch and spring back
against the trust washer. New iolite thrust washers and bearings
may be turned from bar or tube stock (available from stockists such
as Bearing Services) and the bearings are then pressed into place
in the motor casing and end cap. Having completed a thorough service
of the system, I am at last looking forward to many miles of leak
free motoring!
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