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V8
Roadster Conversion project - from dream to reality!

V8 Roadster Conversions are very popular with V8 enthusiasts
and come in a variety of specifications. Here Geoff King (Tartan
Red 4309) from Kincardinshire provides a fascinating tale of
how his project was conceived and carried out to produce an award
winning V8 Roadster with a wonderful specification and performance.
Geoff converted his rusty 1972 MGBGT 1800 to a V8 Roadster over
a three year period and completed the project in August 2002. It
has a 3.5 litre injected engine with a five speed gearbox, independent
rear suspension, unequal length double wishbones, and coilover dampers
front and rear. The brakes have been upgraded with disc brakes front
and rear, with four pot calipers on the front. It looks standard
but it isn't! (May 04)
How did the project come about?
While in the local library one day, I noticed Roger Williams' book
'How to give your MGB V8 power'. The sound of a V8 in a Rover SD1
that I had some years ago and its smooth effortless power came back
into my mind and I thought how I had missed my MGB during the time
our family were growing up, but now the seed was sown and I knew
what I was going to do. I would build a Tartan Red V8 Roadster with
alloy wheels, like the one that I had in my carefree youth but with
enough power to keep up with the traffic of today. I knew that new
MGB shells were being manufactured and my plan was to buy a cheap
roadster as a donor and build a car using a new body. The car would
look original but it would be modern under the skin with electronic
ignition and fuel injection, up to date suspension and brakes and
the "toys" that we expect in many cars today.
First a complete
Rover SD1 was purchased for its V8 engine and 5 speed LT77 manual
gearbox. I overhauled the 3.5 engine and fitted new rings, bearings,
rocker shafts, 3.9 cam and duplex roller timing chain. To help the
engine breathe I smoothed and matched the ports in the heads and
fitted the latest 'Vitesse' type valves. The gearbox was rebuilt
with new baulk rings and bearings.
A suitable donor
roadster proved to be elusive in Scotland (by suitable I mean cheap
and tax exempt) and I eventually bought a 1972 GT in Dumfries. The
1800 MGB GT had been off the road for a couple of years when I purchased
it at
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the end of May 1999
and it definitely was not roadworthy, so I towed it back home to Banchory
on a trailer. It had severe corrosion in all the usual places but
that didn't matter, the car was stripped bare in a weekend and the
rusty remains discarded. On the garage floor I was left with a front
crossmember, rear axle, the steering rack and column and a four-cylinder
engine with an overdrive gearbox. I also had the heater, pedal box,
dashboard, windscreen wiper motor, front and rear lights, some scratched
glass and a tatty interior.
The engine and
gearbox were sold and the chrome bumper front crossmember swapped
for a rubber bumper one. I purchased a twin circuit brake and clutch
master cylinder pedal box assembly, a rubber bumper steering rack
and a collapsible column, the original items were sold. The '72
dashboard was also sold and a late model MGB version bought to suit
the collapsible column. The seat runners were retained but the remainder
of the interior was thrown away. The glass was no use either - there
was not much left of the original GT.

Bullet door mirrors are meant for a Mini but fit perfectly
on the original MGB mirror plinth. (Photo: Geoff King)
Difficulties
with the new V8 Roadster shell
I placed my order for a special V8 roadster shell with the
fittings and brackets etc (or so I thought) for the V8 engine, 5
speed gearbox and ancillaries. The shell would have apertures in
the inner wings for a RV8 style exhaust manifolds and I also specified
a RV8 bonnet to give clearance for the fuel injection plenum chamber.
The shell was delivered in November 2000 finished in two pack Tartan
Red and as it was lifted off the trailer and pushed into my garage
on that cold, dark evening it looked wonderful with gleaming paintwork.
Unfortunately, the next day a more careful inspection revealed that
the doors, boot and bonnet which were supposed to be 'fitted' were,
in fact, simply 'attached' and many hours were spent getting the
panel gaps as even as possible. I was to find more and more defects
with the shell and I can only assume that I had an early version
that still needed some
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development work. To be fair the supplier (or rather the shell manufacturer)
paid for the errors to be corrected but in my opinion they should
not have been there in the first place. There were too many defects
with the shell to ignore but following some correspondence with the
supplier I was advised that I "should leave a V8 conversion
to the professionals"; however, having seen some of the workmanship
from so called craftsmen, I knew I could do at least as well if not
better. I would also have the satisfaction of doing it myself and
for better or worse I would do it my way.
Building
the V8 Roadster
The build commenced; the uprated heater and fan being the
first items installed then the twin circuit brake master cylinder
and pedal box. The clutch master cylinder is a MGBGTV8 type with
a metal reservoir because a new plastic reservoir type didn't fit
as the cap fouled the bulkhead. To update the front suspension
and brakes I modified the rubber bumper type crossmember with
a John Hoyle coilover damper conversion with unequal length double
wishbones replacing the standard lever arm dampers.

Front suspension with the coilover damper conversion and
the lagged RV8 exhaust above and behind the brake disc. (Photo:
Geoff King)
The suspension
has SuperFlex® bushes and is fully adjustable for ride height,
damper rate, and caster and camber angles. To complete the front
suspension I fitted a 7/8 inch anti roll bar and modified the steering
with a 'quick rack' assembly to reduce the number of turns lock
to lock. For the brakes, Rover SD1 non-vented, single line,
4 pot callipers were a relatively cheap and easy brake upgrade.
The big callipers were bolted on with thin wall sleeves (the holes
are metric, the bolts imperial) and connected with metric to imperial
stainless steel braided hoses. Solid ½ inch thick, 10.75
inch diameter MGBGTV8 discs were used, they are
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the same diameter
as the standard MGB but thicker. The dust shield needed a very slight
modification because the SD1 calliper is larger than the MGB one but
apart from that the callipers just bolt on and the car looks as if
it was originally manufactured with them.
I fitted the refurbished
rear axle, rebuilt with a 3.07:1 ratio crown wheel and pinion,
but after less than 500 miles the antiquated live axle and cart
springs were sold and replaced with John Hoyle's Independent
Rear Suspension. Like the front suspension, the IRS kit from
John is a high quality product, well designed and manufactured.
The ride height, damper rate and camber are all fully adjustable
and the bushes are again SuperFlex®. Incidentally, all the bushes
used in the front and rear suspension are standard MGB size (front
lower wishbone) so future replacements should not be a problem.
The total weight of the suspension is slightly more than the live
axle but the unsprung weight is much less. The tube axle assembly,
springs and dampers weighs close to 100 Kgs, 85 Kgs unsprung. The
IRS is approximately 105 Kgs with less than 46 Kgs unsprung.

Rear suspension and disc brake conversion. (Photo: Geoff
King)
I purchased a
refurbished Sierra differential with 3.14:1 CW&P (the
highest standard ratio available), exchange-shortened drive shafts
and new drive flanges, dust shields, discs, pads, wheel bearings
& seals and calliper overhaul kits. A scrap Ford Scorpio donated
its hubs, drive shafts and brake callipers; these were refurbished
prior to being reused. Assembly of the rear suspension was straightforward
with Sierra discs and rebuilt callipers; the completed sub-frame
was then offered up and bolted to the chassis. No new holes are
necessary; the existing front spring eye, the lever arm damper and
check strap mounts are used - 8 bolts in total. A new, heavy duty
propshaft to mate the Rover LT77 gearbox to the Sierra diff was
purchased from GKN Driveline - suppliers of the original MGB propshafts.
The engine
and gearbox went in easily but the RV8 style exhaust manifolds
couldn't be bolted on after the engine was in position, so engine
had to come out again. The manifolds couldn't
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be bolted to the
engine first; they had to be placed in the inner wing holes then the
engine fitted and then the manifolds bolted to the engine.

Engine bay is very neat with the injected V8 power unit.
(Photo: Geoff King)
Electronic
fuel injection was obtained from a Range Rover, the ECU being
from a 3.5 while the plenum, hot wire airflow meter, manifold and
injectors were from a 3.9. It all fits under the RV8 bonnet, as
you would expect, but only just. Considering the wiring is from
a Range Rover it all fits very neatly in the MGB with the ECU mounted
inside the cabin on the top of the passenger footwell. For the
fuel supply I used an early bolt-on tank, which has the fuel
pipe in the tank side, with a late fuel level sender which also
has a fuel pipe, so as to have a flow and return to the tank. A
section approximately eight inches square was cut out of the top
of the new tank and a swirl pot from a Ford Granada welded inside.
I mounted a Bosch, high-pressure fuel pump together with a fuel
filter on the side of the battery box, the pump being level with
the bottom of the fuel tank because high-pressure pumps have poor
suction. Stainless steel pipes were used for the fuel supply and
return and as the wiring harness was routed inside the car the return
fuel pipe uses the old supports and brackets for the wiring.
One of the problems with the new shell was that the radiator
support diaphragms were in the wrong place with the left side being
some ¾ inch further forward compared to the right making
it impossible to fit the radiator. The remote oil filter bracket
was also incorrectly positioned so the supports were cut off and
new ones welded in place and painted again. I originally fitted
a standard MGBGTV8 radiator together with twin electric pusher fans
but recently replaced this with a high efficiency radiator from
Clive Wheatley.
For the brake
lines I used, or rather tried to use, an Automec copper pipe
kit but of course as my car is made from parts of various years
and models very little fitted. I ended up removing the gland nuts
from the copper tube and cutting Kunifer tube to the correct length.
To avoid the exhaust I routed the front brake pipes through the
inner wings above the dampers - I haven't
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seen that on a B
before but it works perfectly and keeps the tube runs as short as
possible and away from the heat. I also routed the rear brake line
and main battery cable up the side of the tunnel beside the gearbox,
well clear of the exhaust from the right bank of cylinders.
Interior
and trim
The car was now more or less mechanically complete so on to the
interior. I purchased a complete set of biscuit coloured panels
and carpets including the boot and fitted heating elements to the
leather seats which also have headrests. The combined door pulls
and armrests are colour matched and are similar to RV8 ones but
are actually from a scrapped Vauxhall. The Vinylkote custom colour
aerosol was more expensive than the armrests themselves but the
colour match is perfect.

Door panels with the armrest from a Vauxhall sprayed with
"Vinylkote" to match the biscuit interior. Note no speakers
or window winders in the doors leave them looking very neat. (Photo:
Geoff King)

Cockpit looks just right! (Photo: Geoff King)
I fitted electric
windows with the switches fitted to a small panel where the
ash tray is normally located. There is also remote central locking
with an immobiliser and alarm, and heated seats with switches in
the central console between the heater controls and the clock. I
also have a CD radio cassette player with an electric aerial in
the rear wing and the speakers in the kick panel in front of the
doors with another two in the rear side panels just in front of
the wheel arch. The speaker covers are sprayed a biscuit
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colour to match
the trim. A six disc autochanger is in the boot. The dashboard is
late model MGB with 3 separate dials for fuel level, oil pressure
and water temperature. All the gauges are new, everyone seems to fit
magnolia faced gauges but mine are black with chrome bezels. I wanted
the indicator switch on the left of the column so I fitted a late
MGB switch upside down on the left for main and dip beam, indicators
and horn. The switch on the right for wipers and washers is from a
Mini, down is flick wipe and up is the two speeds, press in for the
washers. There is also a variable wiper delay and wash wipe module.
Both switch stalks are from a Mini so the graphics are the correct
way up and the car looks as if it left the factory like it.
First
firing and MOT test
I was pleasantly surprised when the engine fired up at the first
attempt but some underseal melted and dripped onto the exhaust filling
the garage with smoke during the first 20 minutes or so running
in the cam at about 2,000 revs. My wife thought the garage was on
fire!
On the 2nd of
August 2002 the car passed the MOT (first time of course) it had
already been inspected by the traffic police who checked the body
and engine numbers, I had also been interviewed by the police and
issued with a new VIN by the DVLA. My local MOT station checked
that the new VIN was hard stamped into the shell and the car was
registered as an "MGBGT Convertible".
Result
is a wonderful V8 Roadster
The engine runs at around 90oC with occasional excursions to 95
or so and the modern suspension is excellent, driving the car around
the Highland roads is a real joy; no more front wheel patter on
rough surfaces, there is very little roll and the back end stays
firmly planted to the road. Axle tramp has been eliminated and on
hard acceleration the car just squats a little. The brake balance
seems perfect with the four pot Rover SD1 callipers at the front
and single pot Sierra callipers at the rear.

Externally the V8 Roadster looks standard with only the
RV8 bonnet bulge and V8 badges - but it is a thoroughly modern car
and a delight to drive. (Photo: Geoff King)
Externally my car
looks almost standard, although the RV8 bonnet does have a bulge and
the single exhaust pipe is a little larger than an |
1800, there are also
a couple of V8 badges and the wheels are a little larger, however,
under the skin it is thoroughly modern and well able to keep up with
everyday traffic. It is fast and safe and I'm still driving everywhere
with a big grin on my face.
From start to
finish the conversion of an old 1800 GT to a fuel injected V8 Roadster
took some three years. New components were purchased for repairs
and safety critical items but I used scrap yards and second-hand
parts wherever possible and many items were purchased from the MG
spares day at Stoneleigh 450 miles from home. I bought a new shell
because I converted a GT to a roadster and the GT donor was a basket
case destined for the scrap yard I also wanted as strong a shell
as possible for the V8 power not one riddled with rust. Despite
recommendations that the project should be left to the professionals
only the paintwork was carried out by specialists. Everything else,
and I mean everything, I repaired, rebuilt, modified and uprated
myself.
Would I do it again? Without any hesitation or doubt yes, but
my wife wouldn't like it!
Roadster
shell difficulties
John Yea at the BMH Body Plant at Witney (an MGV8 enthusiast
himself and a member of the V8 Register) has checked and confirms
"the shell was purchased in November 2000, a year before
the present management team took over. Today we have a documented
customer complaints procedure which tracks a complaint from
initial contact to final resolution. However this system did
not exist in 2000 and there are no records of either the detail
of the complaint or what solution or resolution resulted. I
think the case is further complicated in that the shell was
supplied painted, which means the painter possibly removed some,
or maybe all, the bolt on panels". From the specification
of the bodyshell, John was able to identify the trader through
whom the shell was sourced and staff there do remember Mr King
and this particular shell and recall that BMH did in fact give
some financial compensation. Their view is that the problems
were not typical of the build quality at that time and that
the V8 Roadster Conversion bodyshell is now produced to a consistently
good quality. They purchase a reasonable number of these shells
which they either build up in their workshops or supply for
customers-builds.
In 2003 members of the V8 Register toured the BMH Witney Body
Plant as one of the events in the V8 25th Anniversary Week.
The V8 group was made very welcome by the whole team and it
was very clear the workforce saw quality as a top priority.
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