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RV8 alarm ECU - suspected vulnerability
Brian Moyse (BRG 1714) from Surrey posted a caution on the V8
Bulletin Board concerning the risk of damage to the alarm ECU if the
battery runs down if the car is not used, typically during the Winter
months. (Oct 03)
October
is the time of year when many RV8 owners may be having thoughts about
laying their cars up for the Winter months. This posting is to remind
members that it is important to either disconnect the battery on the
car during a long period of lay-up or to ensure that the battery is
kept fully charged because there are electronic systems on the RV8
which will slowly discharge the battery if it is left connected for
long periods. The note is also a warning to RV8 owners of the potential
damage which can occur to the original equipment alarm electronic
control unit (ECU) if the battery is allowed to discharge and then
attempts are made to start the car with insufficient voltage from
the battery.
At least two
RV8 members have suffered fatal alarm ECU failures which appear to
have occurred immediately after attempts to start the car were made
with low battery voltage/capacity. In one instance the problem was
a discharged battery, in the other the battery connections were found
to be loose. In both cases attempting to start the car resulted in
the starter motor solenoid "pumping". This occurs when there
are sufficient volts to pull in the solenoid, but insufficient volts
to turn the starter |
motor. The current
draw of the starter motor winding results in a further drop in the
voltage which then causes the solenoid to drop out. The voltage then
recovers, whereupon the solenoid pulls in again and the cycle repeats
for as long as the starter motor/ignition switch is operated.
A possible
explanation for the ECU failures is an inherent vulnerability to voltage
transients (spikes) on the electrical supply system. Voltage transients
could occur as a result of the solenoid "pumping" - that
is rapid switching of an inductance (the solenoid coil plus the starter
motor winding) in a direct current circuit, similar to the voltage
transients that cause arcing at the contact breaker points in a distributor
when switching the ignition coil circuit. The ECU failure is total
in that no communication is possible with the remote "plips"
or the MG Rover "Testbook" diagnostic system and the alarm
system will not set or un-set.
Footnote from Victor Smith (Harvest Gold V8 1089) who reminds
readers that a good way of keeping the battery on an RV8 or MGBGTV8
in good condition and well charged during a lay-up is to connect a
battery management unit to the battery so a regular trickle charge
is maintained. The advantage of the battery management units is they
cut off when the battery is fully charged thereby avoiding the risk
of the electrolyte being boiled. See RV8 Workshop Note 56 for more
information on battery management units.
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